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What actually tears you apart near a black hole?
Gravity pulls harder the closer you are.
Fall feet first toward any heavy object and your feet are closer to it than your head, so they are pulled a little harder. In free fall you feel none of the pull itself, because you and everything around you are falling together. What you do feel is the difference: the feet racing ahead of the head. The difference stretches you.
You have met this before. The Moon pulls the near side of the Earth harder than the far side, and that stretch is what raises the ocean tides. Nobody notices it in their own body, because the Moon is far away and a body is small. Bring a much heavier thing much closer and the same stretch grows until it wins against anything you are made of.
Tidal forces near a black hole depend strongly on its mass and on the distance from its centre.
Vesper holds 12 Suns of mass inside a horizon only 30 kilometres in radius. Gravity there changes violently over a short distance. This page works out tides for a hole of Vesper's mass without spin, whose horizon would sit 35 kilometres out. There, the difference in pull between your head and your feet would be about 1.5 × 107 times your own weight. Nothing survives that, and you would be pulled into a thread long before you reached it.
Next, take M87*, the giant in the heart of a galaxy, with 6.5 × 109 Suns of mass. Its horizon is vast, and gravity changes across it slowly and smoothly. At that horizon the stretch across a person would be 2.0 × 1010 times weaker than the weight you feel standing on Earth. You would cross the horizon without a noticeable tidal stretch.
The tide at the horizon of Vesper is 2.9 × 1017 times the tide at the horizon of M87*. The damage comes from the difference in acceleration across your body.
Guess first One hole has ten times the mass of another. At its own horizon, how much gentler is its tide?
A hundred times gentler. The heavier hole is ten times wider, and the tide falls with the cube of distance, a factor of a thousand. But ten times more mass is pulling, and that gives a factor of ten back. A thousand divided by ten is a hundred: the tide at the horizon goes as one over the mass squared.
This is why a ship cannot go where it likes around Vesper. A ship that swings past the hole to turn has to come closer the faster it arrives, and the same law decides how close it can dare to go. The seed that founded the Vigil avoided the question: it stopped on its own fusion engine, settled near Ember, the star paired with Vesper, and never came near the hole (Stopping from 0.1c). What a horizon is in the first place is in What is a black hole?.
How big is the stretch, and how fast does it fade?
The stretch across a body of length L, at distance r from the centre of a hole of mass M, is
tide = 2 × G × M × L ÷ r³
- G is the gravitational constant.
- L is how long your body is along the line of fall.
- r is the distance from the centre of the hole, not from its surface.
The answer is an acceleration, in metres per second squared: how fast the two ends of the body are being pulled apart. Divide by 9.81 to count it in multiples of your weight on Earth, written g.
The cube is what matters. Double your distance and the stretch drops eightfold. Go ten times farther and it is a thousand times gentler.
At the horizon the distance is r = 2GM/c², so the formula collapses to a tidy form:
tide at the horizon = c⁶ ÷ (4 × G² × M²) per metre of body
Only the mass is left, squared in the denominator.
| Hole | Mass (Suns) | Horizon radius | Stretch per metre, at the horizon | Across 2 m |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Vesper's mass, without spin | 12 | 35.4 km | 7.2 × 107 m/s² | 1.4 × 108 m/s² |
| A middling hole | 14,496 | 42,813 km | 49.0 m/s² | 98.1 m/s² |
| M87* | 6.5 × 109 | 1.9 × 1010 km | 2.4 × 10−10 m/s² | 4.9 × 10−10 m/s² |
The middle row uses an illustrative threshold: a stretch of 10 g from head to toe, ten times your weight (98.1 m/s²), as the point where a person is in serious trouble. This is an illustrative threshold rather than a measured human tolerance. The line falls exactly at the horizon of a hole of 14,496 Suns. Heavier than that, and a person crosses the horizon below the line. Lighter, and the tide wins first.
Where does the stretch bite around Vesper?
Per metre of body, from Vesper:
| Distance from Vesper's centre | Stretch per metre |
|---|---|
| At the horizon | 7.2 × 107 m/s² |
| 3 horizon radii | 2.7 × 106 m/s² |
| 10 horizon radii | 7.2 × 104 m/s² |
| 100 horizon radii | 71.6 m/s² |
The page's line for a 2 m person is crossed at 113 horizon radii, 4,020 km from the centre. Inside that radius, the tidal acceleration exceeds the illustrative threshold. The deadly zone is more than a hundred times wider than the hole itself.
What would a turn past Vesper cost?
The tables are for a body falling straight in. A pass only comes close and swings out again, and how close it must come depends on how fast it arrives. Take a ship arriving at 200 km/s, slow for an interstellar craft and fast for a planetary probe. A 150 degree turn at that speed passes 1.4 × 106 km from Vesper's centre, 4.0 × 104 horizon radii out. Over a hull 100 m long the tide there is 1 × 10−4 m/s², far below anything a ship would notice and far inside the 5 m/s² over 100 m the seed was built to bear.
The seed made no such turn: its own fusion engine took off its speed (Stopping from 0.1c). A turn past Vesper could not have done that job, for a reason that has nothing to do with tides. Vesper moves only 4.8 km/s around the system's centre of mass, so a swing past it changes a ship's direction but can take off at most 10 km/s of its speed in that frame. A turn there redirects a ship without slowing it.
Now imagine a ship arriving at 3,000 km/s. A faster ship is harder to bend, so to turn through the same angle it has to dive deeper: the same turn needs a pass at 6,242 km, only 176 horizon radii out. The tide over the hull becomes 1,309 m/s², about 134 g from one end of the ship to the other and 262 times the seed's limit.
Arriving 15.0 times faster made the tide 1.1 × 107 times worse. The rule behind that: for a fixed turn, the closest approach shrinks as the square of the arrival speed, and the tide grows as the cube of how close you get. Square and cube multiply to a sixth power, and 15.0 to the sixth is 1.1 × 107. The first fold below shows where the square comes from.
Why is the stretch 2GML / r³, and why does the mass enter squared?Calculus, then the Riemann tensor, then a Roche limit
The Newtonian version
Gravity at distance from a mass is . Two ends of a body, a length apart along the line of fall, feel different pulls. For small the difference is the slope of times :
Across the line of fall it goes the other way. Two points at the same distance from the centre but apart sideways are both pulled toward the centre, along lines that converge. Each pull points inward by a small angle off the line through the middle, so the two points are squeezed together at
So a falling body is stretched along its line of fall at rate and squeezed in each of the two directions across at rate . Add the three: . To first order the body's volume does not change. It is stretched one way and squeezed the other two, by exactly the amounts that keep the volume. That is spaghettification.
The relativistic version
General relativity says the same thing in other words. Two neighbouring free-fall paths, separated by a small vector , drift apart or together by the equation of geodesic deviation:
Here is the Riemann tensor, the full description of curvature, is the four-velocity of the free-falling observer and is that observer's own time. Pirani showed in 1956 what this means physically: the Riemann tensor is the tidal field, the thing you would measure by watching free particles near you accelerate apart.
For the Schwarzschild solution and an observer falling radially, the equation in the observer's own frame reads
These are the Newtonian numbers exactly. Two facts make that possible. The three rates sum to zero because the empty space outside a mass has no Ricci curvature, the same statement as the volume staying fixed. And in Schwarzschild a boost along the radial direction leaves all three components unchanged, so it does not matter how fast you are falling or where you started: a radial faller feels . The formula holds just as well inside the horizon, where is no longer a distance in the ordinary sense but a measure of the sphere's area.
A body moving sideways is different, because a sideways boost does mix the components. At the closest point of a pass the motion is all sideways, at speed with Lorentz factor , and boosting the static tidal field gives
for the stretch along the radius and the squeeze out of the orbital plane, while the squeeze along the direction of motion stays at . The three still sum to zero. So the radial formula undershoots, but only a little at these speeds. At closest approach the slow pass moves at 1,519 km/s, which raises the stretch by 0.0039 percent; even the fast pass gains only 0.87 percent. The Newtonian estimates above are adequate at these speeds.
Why the horizon tide goes as one over M squared
Put into :
For Vesper that is 7.2 × 107 m/s² per metre, the number in the table. The scaling has a physical reading. The horizon's volume is , so the mean density inside it is , and
The tide at a horizon is set by the average density inside it. The radius grows as , the volume as , and so the density falls as . A bigger hole has a lower average density by this definition. For M87* the mean density inside the horizon works out to 0.44 kg/m³, about a third of the density of air at sea level (1.23 kg/m³).
The yardstick mass
Set the stretch across a length at the horizon equal to a limit and solve for the mass:
With m and m/s², that gives 14,496 Suns. The limit is this page's own yardstick, and the mass depends on it only as , so even a tenfold change in what a body can bear moves the answer by about a factor of three.
Why a faster pass is so much worse
On a hyperbolic pass with speed far away, turning through an angle , the closest approach is
For a fixed turn, . The tide goes as , so for a fixed turn it goes as . The speed ratio 15.0 to the sixth power is 1.1 × 107, the factor found above. Reducing the arrival speed also reduces the tidal load: every halving of arrival speed makes the tide 64 times gentler.
The Roche limit and the tidal radius
A star holds itself together with its own gravity, at the surface, where is its mass and its radius. A hole's tide across the star is . Set the two equal and the distance inside which the tide wins is, up to a factor near one,
This is the tidal radius. Édouard Roche's careful treatment, for a fluid body held together only by its own gravity and orbiting so that it always shows the same face, lets the body stretch into a football shape and puts the limit at 2.44 times this distance; that is the Roche limit. A star plunging in on a single pass is not in that steady state, and the tidal radius is the usual estimate for it. A body with real strength, like a ship, holds out until the tide stress passes what its materials can bear, which can be much closer.
For a Sun-like star near Vesper, is 1,592,755 km, or 44,942 horizon radii. The star is shredded far out in space and never reaches the horizon. Ask when the tidal radius shrinks to the horizon, , and the answer is
With the Sun's radius and mass, that is about 1.1 × 108 Suns. A heavier hole lets a Sun-like star reach the horizon whole. A lighter one tears it apart first. The boundary is usually called the Hills mass, after Jack Hills, who in 1975 proposed that stars torn apart inside a massive black hole's Roche limit could be what powers quasars.
Do we see stars torn apart, and what is still argued?Observations and open questions, no new equations
Stars being shredded
Martin Rees worked out in 1988 what happens when a star in the centre of a nearby galaxy meets a hole of a million to a hundred million Suns. The star is torn apart outside the horizon; some of the debris is flung away at high speed, and the rest falls back and is swallowed, making a bright flare. Observed flares fade over months to years, and Rees's estimate tied them to holes of this size in the nuclei of nearby galaxies. The first flares were found in archival searches of the ROSAT X-ray sky survey in the 1990s, and surveys in visible light have since made them a class of their own. In 2021 Suvi Gezari's review counted 56 reported tidal disruption events. They are rare, and each is a view of a quiet black hole waking up for a few months.
The mass boundary matters here. Above the 1.1 × 108 Suns found in the fold above, the estimate says a Sun-like star falls in whole and nothing flares. But that estimate is Newtonian, and for the heaviest holes the star is torn close to the horizon, where relativity changes the tide. In 2012 Michael Kesden followed stars on orbits tilted every which way around spinning holes and evaluated the relativistic tidal tensor at each one's closest approach. He found, in line with earlier work, that a fast spin raises the heaviest hole able to disrupt a Sun-like star to about 7 × 108 Suns, some 6 times the simple estimate above. Spin lets a star on the right orbit swing closer without crossing the horizon.
What is still argued
- What makes the light. In the events seen so far, the ultraviolet and optical light and the soft X-rays come from different places, and the ratio between them swings widely from one event to the next. What powers each component is still being worked out. Gezari's census also finds that the fading of the light follows the hole's mass as the fallback of debris would predict, but the rise time does not.
- Tides along real paths. The formula on this page is exact for a radial faller around a hole that does not spin. For a spinning hole, or any path that is not radial, you need the full tidal tensor along the path. In 1983 Jean-Alain Marck showed that the special symmetry of the Kerr solution lets you write down, in closed form, a frame carried along any free-fall path around a spinning hole, and the tidal tensor in that frame; Kesden's calculation rests on it. These calculations refine the tidal forces for each trajectory.
Why is Ember not torn apart?
The tidal radius from the first fold applies to the Vigil's own star. Ember, a dwarf with 0.70 of the Sun's mass and 0.68 of its radius, would be pulled apart by Vesper inside 0.0082 AU, 2.6 times its own radius. It circles at 1.5 AU, 184 times farther out.
The more useful measure for a star on a steady orbit is its Roche lobe: the region, shaped like a teardrop pointing at the companion, inside which the star's own gravity holds its gas. Peter Eggleton's 1983 formula gives the lobe's size from the mass ratio alone. Ember's radius is 1.2 percent of its lobe's, and it would only start spilling gas toward the hole if the two were closer than 0.018 AU. Close binaries in which a star does overflow onto a black hole are among the brightest X-ray sources in the sky. Ember is far from that, so nothing streams from the star to Vesper, and the hole stays dark until the Vigil feeds it.
What did the seed feel on arrival?
The seed needed no close pass of either body. It stopped on its own fusion engine, burning for decades far from both (Stopping from 0.1c); the engine's push peaked at 0.061 m/s², the same on every part of the hull, so it stretched nothing. It then settled on Kindling, Ember's close planet. A star is a gentle tidal body: its mass is spread through a ball far wider than a stellar hole's horizon, so its pull changes slowly with distance. Over a 100 m hull, Ember's tide at Kindling's orbit is 1 × 10−8 m/s², 5 × 108 times under the seed's limit.
The figures here treat each pass as a clean turn around one body. A real path from the end of the seed's burn onto Kindling's orbit runs through the fields of both Ember and Vesper, which is a three-body problem. Eventide's plan includes a search for such a path that keeps the tide under 5 m/s² over 100 m design; as of 2026 it has not been run.
Further reading
- Eggleton (1983), Approximations to the radii of Roche lobes, The Astrophysical Journal 268, 368A simple formula, good to about one percent, for the size of a star's Roche lobe at any mass ratio.
- Pirani (1956; republished 2009), On the physical significance of the Riemann tensor, General Relativity and GravitationThe Riemann tensor read as the relative acceleration of neighbouring free particles, which is the tidal field.
- Marck (1983), Solution to the equations of parallel transport in Kerr geometry; tidal tensor, Proceedings of the Royal Society AA frame carried along any free-fall path around a spinning hole, in closed form, and the tidal tensor written in it.
- Hills (1975), Possible power source of Seyfert galaxies and QSOs, NatureStars broken up inside a massive black hole's Roche limit as the engine of quasars and Seyfert nuclei; the swallowed-whole boundary bears his name.
- Rees (1988), Tidal disruption of stars by black holes of 10⁶ to 10⁸ solar masses in nearby galaxies, NaturePart of a shredded star's debris escapes and the rest is swallowed, making a bright flare.
- Kesden (2012), Tidal-disruption rate of stars by spinning supermassive black holes, Physical Review DRelativistic tides at closest approach, and how spin raises the heaviest hole that can disrupt a Sun-like star.
- Gezari (2021), Tidal Disruption Events, Annual Review of Astronomy and AstrophysicsA census of 56 observed events and what they show.
- Event Horizon Telescope Collaboration (2019), First M87 Event Horizon Telescope Results. I. The Shadow of the Supermassive Black Hole, The Astrophysical Journal LettersThe image of M87*'s shadow, and the mass this page uses for it.